Free Downloads Available Again
Free Downloads Available Again
The menu code is now available again on the milonic website for free download to those users who do not have a license. This free download version is an evaluation version and contains a link to Milonic on all top level menus, as that is what the free license agreement entails, a link back to Milonic in exchange for free use of the menu. Licensed users can continue to download the non-evaluation version of the menu. Once you have tried the menu, you can purchase it and have the Milonic link removed...and we encourage EVERYONE to purchase the license as this is a great product worth paying a couple bucks for!
Dave Hergert
Software Engineer
"Helping to make the menu better, one at a time."
Software Engineer
"Helping to make the menu better, one at a time."
I'm going to make this suggestion again. I was thinking about the many who have said things like, I'd like to donate something. Wondering if there's a way to put that on the 'purchase' list....don't know if it's possible to set something like that up since it would have a variable 'price' depending on what someone donated. But, since you are already set to accept credit cards, I thought it might be an option.
Ruth
Ruth
Just thought I'd better recap on the license deal.
We only charge companies and people intent on making money, so not sure how to do the donate button. I do have reservations about our tax issues but I will look into it though. However, believe it or not, it's not high on our list of priorities at the moment Too busy making the menu better to worry about making money
On a license note:
Milonic's deal has always been NOT to make money from users that are helping others without charge. This does not include companies (sorry but that's the way it is) So we cannot even offer a free license to a company. If they download and install without buying then they leave themselves wide open. It has happened before as most of you know and it was VERY embarasing for all concerned when it was discovered.
Cheers
Andy.
We only charge companies and people intent on making money, so not sure how to do the donate button. I do have reservations about our tax issues but I will look into it though. However, believe it or not, it's not high on our list of priorities at the moment Too busy making the menu better to worry about making money
On a license note:
Milonic's deal has always been NOT to make money from users that are helping others without charge. This does not include companies (sorry but that's the way it is) So we cannot even offer a free license to a company. If they download and install without buying then they leave themselves wide open. It has happened before as most of you know and it was VERY embarasing for all concerned when it was discovered.
Cheers
Andy.
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So basically right now, if people want to give some money back to milonic, even though they are using the free license (legally) , they must purchase a professional license (~US34). Which isn't too bad. But what you're sayin is having the donate button would allow those people who dont have much cash to throw around, or only want to give alittle and not full out get a license and want to only give like 5 bucks, they could use the donate button. Having a paypal donate button the homepage might be alright to have and contribute some to the check book, eh Andy?
Dave Hergert
Software Engineer
"Helping to make the menu better, one at a time."
Software Engineer
"Helping to make the menu better, one at a time."
PayPal has a whole developers forum to do anything you want it to.
The problem is keeping records for the British tax system, like declaring tips I think the percentage drops, international transactions are handled quite well, but is it worth it?
I have the opposite problem, donations but nothing that accounts as a private service.
Andy could reinvent himself as the Milonic Foundation
maz
The problem is keeping records for the British tax system, like declaring tips I think the percentage drops, international transactions are handled quite well, but is it worth it?
I have the opposite problem, donations but nothing that accounts as a private service.
Andy could reinvent himself as the Milonic Foundation
maz
Couldn't agree more. At the moment NOTHING is being done in the way of development because both Marty and myself are heavily involved in completing our quarterly VAT (Value Added Tax) return. If we don't complete it on time and to the nearest penny we have to pay penalties.The problem is keeping records for the British tax system
We are also close to our deadlines for Corporation Tax and Income Tax returns. It makes us wonder why we bother sometimes. Although we do have the freedom of running our own business so we can work the hours that suit (yeah right - It's 23:00 here and I'm still on-line) we do have many other problems to deal with.
This is why we can't just create a link for people to pay us money. We simply must ensure that any money we do make is ALL accounted for, otherwise we could end up in jail on fraud charges.
Once we are on target with current finances, a donation button will appear but at the moment it will cause us too many problems so it will just have to wait.
Somebody told me that the Turks and Caicos Islands don't pay tax, any nice places to live there? Definately worth thinking about. I'd be close to the USA too and considering 90% of our business is in America makes sense for us to move out there. The UK is on the decline
Cheers
Andy
Thanks for the update, Andy. Sounds like you really have it a lot worse over there than we do here.
Have you guys been there all your life?
Let me know if you find somethingAndy wrote:Somebody told me that the Turks and Caicos Islands don't pay tax, any nice places to live there?
That's a shame. Too many folks trying to get their fingers into the pot?Andy wrote:The UK is on the decline
Have you guys been there all your life?
John
Wahay!
See here john
http://www.nationalcolonyrealty.com/tax.html
it's a tax haven
BUT - According to the map on my wall here it belongs to the UK One of the many countries stolen by the British Empire many years ago no doubt.
Oh - Yeah, lived here all our lives, getting a bit sick of paying high taxes to keep the free loaders in news cars, beer and pot.
See here john
http://www.nationalcolonyrealty.com/tax.html
it's a tax haven
BUT - According to the map on my wall here it belongs to the UK One of the many countries stolen by the British Empire many years ago no doubt.
Oh - Yeah, lived here all our lives, getting a bit sick of paying high taxes to keep the free loaders in news cars, beer and pot.
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As Milonic is a fully 'on-line' business, can't it be located on a sever in a country with better taxes? Don't some betting websites do this?
I don't always agree with this but Andy is right in the way the UK government screws us all with taxes.
I don't always agree with this but Andy is right in the way the UK government screws us all with taxes.
Andy Davis
Web Designer & Smartboard Manager
Fred Longworth High School, Manchester, England.
Web Designer & Smartboard Manager
Fred Longworth High School, Manchester, England.
I'm all for the Turks and Caicos Islands but Marty is worried there wont be any department stores
Off-shore server eh? Effectively we are working from the UK and our server is located in the UK. We would have a very difficult time with the IRS proving that the business was in fact run in the "tax haven". It's not impossible but it's very difficult.
-- Andy
Off-shore server eh? Effectively we are working from the UK and our server is located in the UK. We would have a very difficult time with the IRS proving that the business was in fact run in the "tax haven". It's not impossible but it's very difficult.
-- Andy