URGENT - Mac testers needed

[Guest]

If Mike can't test OS 9 with IE 4.5, I'm happy to help too. Thanks Andy.

[dstarr@lumbermens.com]

Hi Andy, I can test it on Mac IE 4.5 here.

[Andy]

Andy,

I've got OS9 and IE 5.0. I'm using DHTML Menu version 3.2.5.

I have a page where the navigation is down the left hand side and loads content into an iframe just to the right of it. In IE 5.0 for Mac and Netscape 6.0 for PC the same thing happens. The sub menus appear "UNDER" the iframe regardless of the z-index value I assign to the iframe.

If you can fix this, I'll test anything you want!

Dave Starr

[amitsm@niit.com]

Hi Andy !

I'm there but not under MacOS 10, it's an old PowerMac 5500/225, under MacOS 8.1, with IE 4.5 and NS 4.5... If you think it's ok for your test, I'm ready !

See you soon !

fr Bill

[hanpham@prontomail.com]

Hi Andy !

I'm there but not under MacOS 10, it's an old PowerMac 5500/225, under MacOS 8.1, with IE 4.5 and NS 4.5... If you think it's ok for your test, I'm ready !

See you soon !

fr Bill

ps : I send this message more because I had forgotten to give you my address

[broomboyz@hotmail.com]

Hi Andy

We'd be happy to do some Mac testing.

Most macs here are on 9.1, but I have a couple OS X machines available for testing on (I think both are up to date with recent 'improvements' - os-10.1.2). I have at least IE 5.1.3 for os-x; will have to check about other versions.

We keep a wide range of browsers here for testing on mac os 9

Please let me know if we can be of help - since I'm thinking seriously of embedding your menu scripts into somne of our web apps, we'd have to test anyway.

regards,

Mike


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Mike Malloch,
Software Architect,
KnowNet Ltd

post: 6 Menai View Terrace, Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 2HF, WALES
web: http://www.theknownet.com
email: mike@theknownet.com

[hanpham@prontomail.com]

That's very kind of you to offer.

I notice that you are running all the latest software with regard to OSX, they problem I had was with the new version, so that's good.

Now, I can fix this but I'm thinking that I might break the menu in 1.0.4 (IE5.1.0) and again this can be fixed but the trouble is I no longer have a machine to test it on as i only have one mac here and that's been upgraded.

So, can I suggest that you keep one of your OSX machines on an earlier version, that way you can test all of your own software too.

Anyway, I'll leave it with you to think about.

Thanks again
Andy.

[broomboyz@hotmail.com]

If Mike can't test OS 9 with IE 4.5, I'm happy to help too. Thanks Andy.

[c_randall77@hotmail.com]

hi andy...I can test the menu with my wife's mac. it has 8.5 OS using IE 5.02

[alaskalady@starband.net]

Version 3.3.0 is now ready for a little testing.

I'm aware of a few bugs that I will get fixed over the next day or so.

Opera 5 has an infinite loop problem when a bottom scroll bar is visible and Netscape 6.0 has a slight sub image positioning problem.

Those of you with Apple Macs might find it beneficial to give the menu a real good going over with regard to previous problems.

Major changes are as follows.

The menu can now be glued (attached) to a table cell. This is one of the most asked for queries and I think one of the best improvements to date. it's still in it's infancy so a little work may be needed but it works much better than I had hoped. And you guys are the first to see it work. I must admit that I have never seen this done before and almost jumped out my chair when I finally cracked it )

Each vertical menu can now contain header cells. They are just menu elements without a hyperlink and a different color.

Mouseover changes are also apparent and you will notice that the mouse pointer changes to a hand only if a hyperlink is present. None hyperlink element display an arrow, except for Netscape 4, there isn't much one can do about that browser.

Another big change is the ability to change a single elements color, this can be seen by the red, green and blue menu items.

Those of you with a Wav sound plug-in will notice that a little "pop" sound can be heard when selected certain items, this is to test the OnFunction and OffFunction abilities of the menu. Don't worry if you can't hear them I know that piece of code works quite well.

Finally, and I consider this to be the most important improvement, is the fact that the menu should use absolutely no processing power at all when on standby. Can those of you that can check this please check that this is the case. much work has gone into this and the performance improvement I have seen so far has been excellent.

Cheers folks

Andy

[sandrag@att.net.mx]

andy@milonic.com writes:

Version 3.3.0 is now ready for a little testing.

Hi Andy

I've had a quick look at the 3.3 beta at http://milonic.co.uk/menu/beta/

Found a few bugs, but before beginning can I ask that you make a zip of the beta versions available to testers
reasons:
- the sound embed causes nasty 'find me this plugin?' sequences in some browsers, making it a pain to test in multiple old browsers - thus want to be able to edit the beta test html file
- for mac/ie debugging, it helps to have the code flattened into one html file
- I'd like to check appearance/behaviour of our own menus - add some new conditions to the testing

(I downloaded the files by sucking them from the 'beta' directory one at a time, but it'd be easier to have a zip)

cheers, Mike
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Mac OS 9.1

-- NS 4.75 --

Have not yet been able to view the page because of plugin problems - will get back to you

****** -- IE5.0: -- (notoriously buggy version of IE/mac)

1 - plain vertical menu works OK (by the way, the 'header' items are a very welcome improvement - this will allow us to have 'dimmed' items in action-menus)

2 - table-bound menu: js error thrown when mouse moved over a top-level menu item

- Object doesn't support this property or method (a catch-all error message)
- line 185 char 1 (this is almost useless since it counts lines *before* any script includes - I'll try again with the script includes flattened into the html page so the error will be pointed to more accurately)
- sequence of events:
- roll mouse over, eg 'Development'
- error msg dialog thrown
- menu *does* pop down (behind the error dialog)
- after dismissing dialog (with mouse within popped-down menu), menu behaves correctly


3 - link-invoked menu: similar error when mouse moved into the menu

- same error / line number etc as above
- sequence of events:
- click link
- menu pops down
- move mouse onto a menu item
- error generated
- after dismissing dialog (with mouse within popped-down menu), SAME ERROR thrown each time mouse moved between menu items

BUT NOTE - I tested link-invoked menus yesterday] with 3.2 and it worked (except that - as is common with ie5/mac - I had to put the popup() call in a setTimeout)

4 - odd behaviour of dismissing menus after these errors occur (but not before)

- after error msg 'ok-ed', menus no longer dismiss properly from the vertical menu
- they will dismiss only when mouse moved over a header element (or into another menu on the page)
- erratic behaviour after error msg for menus invoked from table-bound menu


****** -- IE4.5: -- (stabler, but less standards-compliant - very different from ie5/mac)

1 - on pageload, get the venerable 'object does not support...' at line 794 before any html renders (line numbers are not that informative)
- page loads instantly after erromsg dismissed, but
2 - table-bound menu does not appear
3 - *vertical* menu does not appear
4 - first-time click on link-invoked menu gives 'MouseY is not defined' at line 222 / char 272
5 - second click on the link gives menu OK, and menu behaves OK, but will not dismiss (but can be re-invoked at different x-y)