Firefox 3/Linux broke the menus over flash (again) [SOLVED]

[kedlm]

Firefox 2+ worked fine under Linux and Windows with Flash and Milonic menus. (with the flash activator js)
Firefox 3 was just released today and it works fine with the Milonic menus under Windows, but under Linux the menus are again behind the flash.

The sample at http://milonic.com/over.php works fine with Firefox 3 under Windows and Firefox 2 under Windows and Linux, but does not work correctly with Firefox 3 and Linux.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Mike

[John]

Andy posted a new release today (v5.795), but left no info on what changes were made. You might want to give it a try.

[kedlm]

Thanks for the heads-up about the new version, but it did not help.

I should clarify that the example at http://milonic.com/over.php works with Firefox 2 and 3 under Windows.
But that example does NOT work with Firefox 2 or 3 under Linux.

What does work with Firefox 2 under Linux, but does not work with Firefox 3 under Linux, is adding $mmStyle->fixMozillaZIndex=true; to the menus.

Sorry about that confusion.

Mike

[kedlm]

This may help someone track this down, but if I make the menus large enough (or the web browser small enough) and add
$mmMenu->overflow="scroll";

then the menus that scroll do appear above the flash!

So it is possible to fix in Firefox 3, just something extra must be needed.

Mike

[Andy]

Hi,

Are you saying that Firefox 2 actually worked under Linux? I wasn't aware that the windowlessmode (wmode) had actually been fixed by Adobe yet. I'm assured that Firefox have done their part with X on *nix but are just waiting for Adobe to finish off their part. This is why I'm surprised that it has worked at all on Linux.

Have you got a URL of one that works with Firefox 2 on Linux?

-- Andy

[kedlm]

It works "well enough", but not perfectly.

By adding the fixMozillaZIndex=true option the pulldown/right menus appear over the flash in Linux with Firefox 2.
However, the main horizontal/vertical menu bases still do not appear over flash.

That is a limitation I can live with.

Mike

[kedlm]

Andy,

Is there a chance of restoring the "partially working" functionality of Firefox 2 in Firefox 3 in Linux?
Where the fixMozillaZIndex would allow pop up menus to appear on top of flash?

Thanks
Mike

[Andy]

Andy,

Is there a chance of restoring the "partially working" functionality of Firefox 2 in Firefox 3 in Linux?
Where the fixMozillaZIndex would allow up up menus to appear on top of flash?

Thanks
Mike

Unfortunately not. The 2 browsers are completely different. We need to find another workaround.

The problem is that Adobe hasn't completed their part of the windowlessmode for their Linux version of Flash. With Firefox 2 we could use a position of "fixed" and this worked but it was still a workaround. However, this workaround no longer works in Firefox 3. There is a method that we can try but this will require some additional coding in the menu. Apparently the IFRAME masking that we used for IE5.5+ also works in Firefox but there are a few issues getting it to work properly.

I'll see if I can push this forward and get a release out asap

[kedlm]

Is it using this idea or would this work?
http://blog.marcoos.com/2006/07/21/html ... -possible/

Thanks for pushing on it!
Mike

[Andy]

Yes, it will be using something similar.

Looks like we need to specify the IFRAME's display as none to start with and then change it to block after the pages has loaded - it's a very bad workaround and one that I'm really not happy with implementing but looks like the only way for now. At least until Adobe get their act together, it's been a bug report for about 5 years

[kedlm]

Just thought I'd see if you had thought about this anymore.

Cheers,
Mike

[kedlm]

The good news is that with the latest Adobe Flash Beta for Linux and Firefox 3, the wmode=transparent stuff works so the menus will appear on top of flash movies!

The bad news is that either there is a damage/redraw bug "somewhere" or I need to layout my page again because I get some extra redraws when the menus popup over the flash. Still things are much better now than before!

(the extra redraws don't happen in IE or Firefox 2 with the latest Flash Beta so I'm guessing its a FF3 issue)

[steve.n]

Hi Andy,

It would appear the menu does not appear over flash in Firefox3 for XP as well.

The link to see is http://www.allflex.com.au

I've just updated with the latest version with no change.

Appreciate any advice or update to this problem.

Thanks. Steve

[Andy]

HI,

You need to add wmode=transparent to your Flash object.

See the menus at http://milonic.com/over.php - as you can see they work fine in Firefox 3

[kedlm]

Just another update:
- using the latest firefox 3 under windows and linux (and IE6+ under windows)
- and using the latest flash 10 beta from adobe
- and using the latest menu (5.801 I think)

All my menus, redraw issues, flash pages, etc. work perfectly as far as I can tell.

Thanks for a great product! We really like it!

Mike

[John]

Your kind words are most appreciated, Mike.

Thanks!