IT's not the menu John, it's the operator who is trying to get an effect using an added code, and if I don't try my workaround for the pagefontcolor it works perfectly. But if I use that, there's a problem in the older browsers. Here's a link to my two test pages. Just click the NEXT TEST PAGE to see how the menu changes with the font color change.
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Dave helped me with the code in the menuV5-1.js file. The older browsers seem to read that code in data file, turn all the font black on the page, and then not load the menu. Anyway, for all I know it won't work in your browser either

Though I was told it worked in fire something, IE5+, NN6+, Opera 7 can't remember the rest of them....
I was just thinking that maybe I could detect the old browsers and have them load a version of the menu that didn't have my workaround in it. So, as you see ... it's not the menu at all, which is marvelous, and I just love it. I also have an easier fix if I can just get it to load in those browsers.....I dont' even need to call the old one, though I'd prefer that solution. I can make a data.js for light pages and for dark ones.
Ruth