Conflict between Milonic and Macromedia javascript DMW MX

[JohnH.]

Hi,

Please find the conflict example here on these test pages:

With Milonic http://altauno.com/accueil-testmenu2.html

Without Milonic http://altauno.com/accueil-nomilonic.html

When you browse over the image map in the middle of the page in particular over the circles, there is like a gap between each images in the map and thus make it appear to flicker bringing back the center image with the main text for a split second. Actually there are no gaps. These were created with Dreamweaver and Fireworks and have never been any problems.

As soon as I disable the Milonic menus, then the mouse over returns to normal not displaying any gaps between the images. The mouse over becomes very smooth again.

We would very much like to know how to correct this issue.

For your info, we have disactivated other javascript in the page and we have also tested the menus without any coding inside (no menus but Milonic javascript activated) and the problem still persists. We have also tried repositioning the javascript inside the page but to no avail.

Your kindest help would be very much appreciated.

In advance, many thanks for your great product.

Very best,
John

[JohnH.]

Please note:

We have tried implementing the latest Version 5.42 and the problem is exactly the same.

Thanks,
John

[JohnH.]

Hi,

I have posted since a few days and have not received any replies yet.

Is this a known problem?
Has anybody been able to reproduce this kind of problem before?
Or did we simply miss out on something?

In advance, many many thanks for your ideas or help.

Very best,
John

[John]

The version currently on your site is v5RC9 - quite literally 90-100 versions down-level. As mentioned on the home page, support is only provided for the most current version, as of this writing 5.43. There's no way we can help with that old version posted.

Please update from http://milonic.com/ and we'll take a shot at it.

[JohnH.]

Hi John,

Thanks for your reply.

We had not installled it on our production server since the problem was reproducible on our testing server even with your latest version.

But in order to have your full support, we will definitively update it during the next couple of days and then get back to you.

Very best,
John

[John]

Thanks, John. At that point we'll do our best to get you going.

[JohnH.]

Hi John,

The latest version was installed in a different folder on our production server ("/menu2") and our test files make the calls to that folder with your latest release Version 5.42.

Please find the conflict example here on these test pages:

With Milonic http://altauno.com/accueil-testmenu2.html

Without Milonic http://altauno.com/accueil-nomilonic.html

There are no changes to the above problem (original posting), but hopefully this will help you better understand the problem we are in this particular situation.

Many thanks and very best regards,
John

[John]

Try making this a negative number, as shown...

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_subOffsetLeft=-6;

[JohnH.]

Hi John,

Thanks for pointing us to the small error in the data file. It was corrected but we see no changes in the map and mouse over behaviour.

When you browse over the image map in the middle of the page over the circles, there is still a bigger gap between each images in the map and thus make it appear to flicker bringing back the center image with the main text for a split second.

Without Milonic loaded like you can see in the test pages, it works fine.
With Milonic http://altauno.com/accueil-testmenu2.html
Without Milonic http://altauno.com/accueil-nomilonic.html

Any more clues...?

John

[John]

That's a bit strange. I have your page posted at http://www.west.asu.edu/sa/testsite/ (missed a few images, but the important ones are there). The only thing I changed in the _data file was the -6 I mentioned earlier. There is no longer any gap, and the background images do not flicker (unless you slip off the menus themselves while mousing from sub to sub). I've been using the Entreprise/Liens menus for testing, as they drop the lowest into the other images.

[JohnH.]

John,

I went several times in the last few minutes on your test page:
http://www.west.asu.edu/sa/testsite/

I even tried:
http://www.west.asu.edu/sa/testsite/acc ... menu2.html

but it does not show up at all. Is it the good address?

Very best,
JohnH

[JohnH.]

Oh.. just to make sure:

The flickering does not occur in the menus themselves but in the map in the middle of the page with the circles.

Were we right on this?

[John]

I went several times in the last few minutes on your test page:
http://www.west.asu.edu/sa/testsite/

Is it the good address?

Hi John -

Yep, just tried it again with no problems. You might want to try http://www.west.asu.edu/sa/testsite/index.htm, but that really shouldn't make a difference. Andy from Great Britian is currently looking at another page on that same server with no trouble.

The flickering does not occur in the menus themselves but in the map in the middle of the page with the circles.

Were we right on this?

Yes, understood. That flickering in the 'background' (AltaUno... stuff) is gone.

[JohnH.]

The page still cannot be viewed.
But I can go anywhere else without any problems.

Even the short one cannot: http://www.west.asu.edu/

Sorry.

JohnH

[JohnH.]

Plus, we have made the changes suggested.

The parameter was changed and the very latest version of your software was installed.

Why are you testing somewhere else which we cannot unfortunately see...? And what are the differences in the code if you have imported our stuff there? Hence, there should be no differences.

Our test pages demonstate the problem quite evidently and all of the software and data files can be accessed.

With Milonic http://altauno.com/accueil-testmenu2.html
Without Milonic http://altauno.com/accueil-nomilonic.html

Best,
John

[John]

John, I have no idea why you can't get access. It's an open server, actually our 'front door' to this campus.

Anyway, try http://tiggrsuccess.com/test/. That's one of my personal servers, off-campus.

Again, nothing has been changed except the already-mentioned -6 (and adding your domain to the img statements to make them work, of course).

[JohnH.]

Hi,

Thanks. We were able to get access to your private server:
http://tiggrsuccess.com/test/
Actually the same problem occurs. The flickering is still there when you go over the image map.

At some point, we thought this was just one of our browsers, but then when we checked with other people, the same occurs. We use the most recent IE browsers 6.0.2900 on XP with SP2 (SP2 did not change a thing) with all recommend updates.

In Netscape, we cannot see the flickering of the image map. Only in IE.

Best,
Jean

[John]

I don't have NS loaded, but in Win/IE and Mac/Safari I do not see any flickering. The gap between the menus is now gone. Rolling over the main images shows a solid quick change in the right side images.

[JohnH.]

We still see the flickering... and IE is the most used browser.

How come? By what is it created? So strange...

As soon as we leave the Milonic code aside (none activated), there is no more flickering in the image map in IE browsers.

Hummm...

[Ruth]

I know what's happening but cannot give you a fix, perhaps some javascript could do something. What you are calling a flicker is normal mouseOn mouseOff functions. So, you mouseover item 1 and the image changes but when you mouseout of item 1 the mouseout requires the image to go back to the original, even though you are mousing down to the next item rapidly, there is still a mouseout function taking place. I don't know how you would stop that from happening because if someone mouses onto item 1 then mouses out and doesn't go to the next item you want the image to go back to the original.

Ruth